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Players' guide · updated Oct 29, 2026 · game version 2026.10.28 (Steam build 26262663, 2026-10-28)

Kinah with alts after the 28 Oct patch: Krao spam or 1,400 alts

Two ways to farm Kinah with alts met in a 194-comment thread: push three alts to 1,400 Item Level and run expeditions for about 55 million a week, or leave them at Krao Cave — 4–5 minute runs, a tenth less raw Kinah, and Wrathful Mind drops that sell for about 3 million. The 28 Oct patch moved the numbers: Odyle Energy is back to 4 per character and 16 per server, gathering is capped at 1,000 a day, and a deleted character now waits 7 days.

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The sub-only plan: three alts to 1,400

SnooLobsters8155 (main at 2,795 / 157k, 92 upvotes): main at 2,100+, three alts — Cleric or Chanter, the classes groups want — each doing every quest and sealed dungeon, a blue belt and amulet, feathers, two story gold weapons +10, three Draupnir chests for a gold piece, manastones and +5 gear, which lands at 1,400, then Urugugu Canyon with the pity voucher. About 55 million a week from the expeditions; mayo1887 confirms the number with three alts. The alt threads add the Chanter detail: run Urugugu first for the two rings with a Dark Crush +1 line, and expect about 30k damage in Krao after twelve hours of play.

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  1. RedditRealistic Kinah farming with sub onlyOct 26, 2026 · 92 upvotes · 194 comments
  2. RedditHow to get alts to 1400?Oct 23, 2026 · 6 upvotes · 23 comments
  3. Redditi reach on alt 1400 GearScoreOct 28, 2026 · 23 comments

The Krao answer: Wrathful Minds at any item level

The top reply (Duperel3, 58 upvotes) keeps alts at Krao Cave: 4–5 minute runs, about 10% less raw Kinah than the 1,400 plan, but guaranteed Wrathful Mind chances — a Wrathful drop is about 6% a claim; a one-star claim gives a Mind, two stars a Mind one time in six and a Wrathful Will the rest, three stars a Mind, Will or Wrathful Ego at one to one to four; Minds and Egos sell for about 3 million, Wills about 1 million on his server. His week: 208 Krao runs across two accounts. The Kinah reward drops to 80% after 104 runs and to 60% later, and Krao rings are the cheapest pieces to take to +15 and transfer, with a 14-box pity. Five players agree, including one who says the same about Urugugu vouchers; the drop table is one player's and nobody challenged it.

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  1. RedditRealistic Kinah farming with sub onlyOct 26, 2026 · 92 upvotes · 194 comments
  2. RedditWhat is the best way to approach alts for a balanced progression?Oct 25, 2026 · 13 comments
  3. Redditwhat should I do now that I'm at 60% kinah reward?Oct 24, 2026 · 20 comments

What the 28 Oct patch changed for alts

The 20 Odyle Energy per character was a transfer-period event: it is back to 4 per character plus 16 per server (about ten corrections in the patch thread), which makes alt dungeon loops less efficient — or 'forces more alts' (YungSofa117). Gathering is capped at 1,000 gathers (about 333 nodes) a day per server and closed below level 45; most call it a bot measure few humans reach, while two players who gathered twelve hours a weekend and crafted gold weapons from it lose their main income. Character deletion now waits 7 days, which ends the delete-and-reclaim loop (a fresh level 10 gave about 1,000 rainbow Soul Crystals and 750–800k bound Kinah). Nightmare instant-clear tickets, 14 a week at 30,000 Kinah, are a new sink for mains.

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  1. Reddit[Notice] Patch Notes | Oct. 27 (PDT) / Oct. 28 (CET)Oct 28, 2026 · 174 upvotes · 543 comments
  2. RedditBosses nerfed and player health increasedOct 28, 2026 · 262 upvotes · 406 comments
  3. RedditHELP with my current situationOct 26, 2026 · 23 upvotes · 41 comments

Which class to make an alt

For Krao farming Duperel3 ranks alts Chanter, then Templar, Spiritmaster, Sorcerer; for getting into groups, Cleric and Chanter — a 90k Cleric alt at 2,100 gets invited to 115k+ rooms (65 upvotes). A 1,400 alt in corridors makes 18k Abyss Points a run on a Chanter. Gladiator is 'terrible alt, strong main' and Assassin 'not worth starting before Chapter 2' by six of ten Korean replies. Alts should skip the new Urugugu and Vakron [Hard] modes and spam Krao and Draupnir for uniques and Minds instead (Zoeyxyx).

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  1. RedditRealistic Kinah farming with sub onlyOct 26, 2026 · 92 upvotes · 194 comments
  2. RedditRerolled Cleric and being able to play the game is funOct 25, 2026 · 65 upvotes · 67 comments
  3. RedditWhat's even the point of playing DPS classes when Chanter and Templar existOct 26, 2026 · 98 upvotes · 434 comments
  4. Inven (KR)안녕하세요 살성 어제 시작한 뉴비인데요 (a new Assassin asks)Oct 26, 2026 · 830 views · 16 comments

What to sell and where to spend

Krao's Minds and Egos are the alt income; Wills are worth a third. On the main, the transfer trick — a cheap level-36 Unique to +15, then Gear Transfer onto the 86 — is still the biggest saving (1,222 upvotes), and since 28 Oct dungeon pieces transfer into same-level crafted gear, so a Fire Temple weapon replacement fell from about 175 million to about 75. Our Kinah page lists every repeatable source with the cube payouts, and the Wrathful items' pages show every dungeon that drops them.

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  1. RedditStop wasting Kinah on level 86 gear! A cheap trick to get +15 gear with good rollsOct 18, 2026 · 1,222 upvotes · 638 comments
  2. Reddit[Notice] Patch Notes | Oct. 27 (PDT) / Oct. 28 (CET)Oct 28, 2026 · 174 upvotes · 543 comments
  3. RedditRealistic Kinah farming with sub onlyOct 26, 2026 · 92 upvotes · 194 comments

Sources

Player posts read on Oct 29, 2026 on Reddit and Inven (KR). The words are ours; the numbers are the players' unless a line says the game's or our sum.

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  1. RedditRealistic Kinah farming with sub onlyOct 26, 2026 · 92 upvotes · 194 comments
  2. RedditHow to get alts to 1400?Oct 23, 2026 · 6 upvotes · 23 comments
  3. Redditi reach on alt 1400 GearScoreOct 28, 2026 · 23 comments
  4. RedditWhat is the best way to approach alts for a balanced progression?Oct 25, 2026 · 13 comments
  5. Redditwhat should I do now that I'm at 60% kinah reward?Oct 24, 2026 · 20 comments
  6. Reddit[Notice] Patch Notes | Oct. 27 (PDT) / Oct. 28 (CET)Oct 28, 2026 · 174 upvotes · 543 comments
  7. RedditBosses nerfed and player health increasedOct 28, 2026 · 262 upvotes · 406 comments
  8. RedditHELP with my current situationOct 26, 2026 · 23 upvotes · 41 comments
  9. RedditRerolled Cleric and being able to play the game is funOct 25, 2026 · 65 upvotes · 67 comments
  10. RedditWhat's even the point of playing DPS classes when Chanter and Templar existOct 26, 2026 · 98 upvotes · 434 comments
  11. Inven (KR)안녕하세요 살성 어제 시작한 뉴비인데요 (a new Assassin asks)Oct 26, 2026 · 830 views · 16 comments
  12. RedditStop wasting Kinah on level 86 gear! A cheap trick to get +15 gear with good rollsOct 18, 2026 · 1,222 upvotes · 638 comments

Questions

How much Kinah do three alts make a week?

A sub-only player with three 1,400 alts reports about 55 million a week from expeditions; the Krao Cave camp makes about a tenth less raw Kinah but sells Wrathful Minds at about 3 million each.

How much Odyle Energy does an alt get after the patch?

Since 28 Oct 2026 the Wind Breeze Merchants sell 4 Odyle Energy per character and 16 per server a week; the 20 per character was a transfer-period event.

Does the Krao Cave Kinah reward drop?

One player who ran 208 Krao runs a week says the Kinah reward drops to 80% after 104 runs and to 60% later; the Wrathful drops are unaffected.

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